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Poster: midnight sun Date: Dec 5, 2007 1:56pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: "Infinite Consciousness"?

JerryRobert: W-O-W!

i apologize in advance for my usual self-centered response...i'm not sure i can otherwise relate, so i will try to confine my commentary to "creativity"

when i learn to play a jazz standard, i play a simple four to the bar walking bass line on the fretless bass to allow myself some familiarity with the form...after a time "things" begin to evolve...melodically, rhythmically, harmonically...

where does this evolution comes from?
many artists agree on the following;

- much of it cannot be theoretically explained
- the more you try, the less it happens (left brain getting in the way of the right brain?)
- you do not feel as though you are consciously in control in the sense that you feel more like an observer, rather than a performer ("the music played the band")

- is "it" a connection to "Infinite Consciousness"?
- is it possible to know for sure?
- will it make a difference to know?

no answers, only more questions from this agnostic mystic

many thanks for sharing your thought provoking words

much to think about while i get back to watching myself smear drywall mud in the unfinished basement...

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Poster: Jerrob Hungar Date: Dec 6, 2007 4:04am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Infinite Consciousness'?

Hi Midnight Sun, Nice to see you again. Please don't apologise, your presence is always very welcome. I enjoyed reading your post because I feel you got what I was trying to put across. We all seek our own answers in our own way.
I read your post the other day about spending so much time in the forum and I could relate to everything you said. I learned to involve my family in the forum by telling them about the kind and generous people here. They know how much joy I get from the Dead and now they ask me how things are going with folks here as though you are distant members of our family.
Anyway, what are you listening to as you do that drywalling?

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Poster: midnight sun Date: Dec 6, 2007 3:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: 'Infinite Consciousness'?

hey jerrob:

your original post is monumental to say the least...still much to think about...thanks for your kind reply and sharing your thoughts

my wife (fine arts grad - water colour) and i have been discussing the parallels between music and art for the last 20 years...some of those conversations contain ideas discussed on this forum

the creative process is remarkably similar for both disciplines, as i suspect it is for all artistic times it is difficult to "let go" of formal training...all too often the tendency is to cling to the learning process, forgetting the purpose...The Doors lyric, "learn to forget" always comes to mind

where does it all come from?
- i don't know

what i can say is, there is nothing quite like the experience of finally getting past the struggle and arriving at "the flow" (Jerry's term)...almost always the struggle is compounded from trying to do too much

what am i listening to? more often than not, the stuff i hear in my mind...sometimes variations on the music i have been working on, sometimes Dead, sometimes other than Dead and variations thereof...sometimes music is front and center, sometimes a background to the thoughts i ponder...i've noticed that work from the neck down (drywall taping certainly fits that category for me) seems to free up the rest of my energy...and drift off...into form...jam...

hows about you?

This post was modified by midnight sun on 2007-12-06 23:15:31